If you are influenced by Chakkarapani's web site and think these too are preemptively answered questions. Please be informed that I did not preempt these questions.
Here when I say P.A.Q I mean Prabhukarthik Asked these Questions. (in his comment to my earlier post named Pro Bono) As I really saw a potential to write a post in his questions, I decided to answer them in here
Kattai panchayatai ozhikka mudiyuma? [Can forceful mediation be erradicated?] I keep hearing that Lawyers themselves and sometimes Policemen are involved often.
When parties willingly submit to such meathods, little could be done to curb this. The courts are taking very serious note of this menace and doing their best to eliminate. When influential people are involved in such things, it becomes very difficult to ward of that evil. Needless to say that there is no legal sanctity to such mediations unlike Alternate Dispute Resolution (ADR) where the courts themselve would encourage the parties to mutually settle among themselves to resolve the dispute than invite the courts to pass judgment over the issues.
Why is that most of the lawyers seek political affiliation?, Of all the professions - doctors, engineers, CAs, why is that lawyers such a strong link with politicans?
There seems to be no real reason as to why there is such a link. Right from the days of freedom struggle, lawyers have been actively involved in the nation building process (Gandhiji, Nehru, Ambedkar, Rajaji and the like) I also do not think that the lawyers involving in politics is a phenomenon unique to India.
If you are talking of corrupt politicians, I feel they are corrupt because of being a politician not solely because they are lawyers.
How far is it ethically correct for a lawyer to defend someone when its clearly known that such a person has committed such an act?
There is something called the 'due process of law'. No one excepting the courts should judge a person of having committed an offence even if he voluntarily confesses . Law has sanctioned procedures for trial and it is the burden of the State to prove the offence and that too beyond resonable doubt. It becomes the duty of the lawyer to ensure that the procedures and rights gauranteed to his client are scruplously adhered. It is also the duty of the Court to ensure that an advocate is engaged to defend the accused unless he specifically gives up such a right and chooses to defend himself.
The bottomline: "to defend the client and ensure that he is given a fair trial is an advocate's reponsibility. "
The law provides that the discussion between the lawyer and a client is privy to them(is that the right word?). Leave aside the Law,is it ethically correct?
Advocates are prohibitted from disclosing without the client's consent, professional communications received as instructions in the course of employment. Now, there being a clear statutory prohibition on disclosure how are we to test the ethics. However, there are exceptions to the prohibition, such as communications made for criminal purposes and those comming to the knowledge of the advocate after commencement of the employmnt.
Please see the following 3 illustrations given in the Indian Evidence Act.
(a) When a client asks his attorney to defend in the case of forgery committed by him, the communication betweeen the client and attorney is protected from disclosure, since the defence of a man known to be guilty is not a criminal purpose.
(b) If a client asks his advocate to sue for possession of property by the use of the forged deed; this being in furtharance of a criminal purpose is NOT protected from disclosure.
(c) 'A' being charged with embezzelment, retains 'B' his lawyer to defend him. In the course of the proceedings, 'B' observes that an entry has been made in 'A's account books charging 'A' with the sum said to have been embezzeled, which entry was not in the book at the commencement of his employment. As this has been done after the commencement of the employment is NOT protected from disclosure.
I am only happy and thankful to you for giving me an opportunity to write what I have learnt. But I cannot be your legal representative.
Legal Representative is a phrase denoting the person who comes in the place of a deceased litigant. That is to say if a case is filed against 'A' and if 'A' dies when it is pending, it is the obligation of the person who had filed the case to bring on record 'A's legal representatives and continue the case against them. (ususally it is the successors to the estate who are legal representatives). No one can maintain a case against a dead person. Similairly a dead person also cannot maintain a suit and hence the case will have to be continued by his L.Rs. There have been cases which have been fought by generations on either side.
This is one thing which happens as a routine in civil cases. Earlier to the family courts being established, marital disputes were tried in civil courts. It was on one such occassions that a wife had filed an application against her husband for 'restitution of conjugal rights'. The husband died in the meantime and hence the wife's lawyer was representing to the court about the respondent's death, without any second thought the Hon'ble judge immediately adjourned the matter directing the petitioner to take steps to bring on record the L.Rs of the deceased respondent. :-))
Another one: What is the difference between BL and LLB?.
Both only mean Bachelor of Laws, though LLB is an acronym of Legum Legis Baccalaureus. Laws being a faculty which can neither be grouped under Science nor Arts, Undergrads in Laws are awarded LLB, LLM [Legum Legis Magister] to the PGs and LLD [Legum Legis Doctor] to the doctorates. But a few universities confer these degrees as B.L., M.L., and Ph.D. Even such of those who award LLB only call the candidate a Bachelor of Laws.
Here when I say P.A.Q I mean Prabhukarthik Asked these Questions. (in his comment to my earlier post named Pro Bono) As I really saw a potential to write a post in his questions, I decided to answer them in here
Kattai panchayatai ozhikka mudiyuma? [Can forceful mediation be erradicated?] I keep hearing that Lawyers themselves and sometimes Policemen are involved often.
When parties willingly submit to such meathods, little could be done to curb this. The courts are taking very serious note of this menace and doing their best to eliminate. When influential people are involved in such things, it becomes very difficult to ward of that evil. Needless to say that there is no legal sanctity to such mediations unlike Alternate Dispute Resolution (ADR) where the courts themselve would encourage the parties to mutually settle among themselves to resolve the dispute than invite the courts to pass judgment over the issues.
Why is that most of the lawyers seek political affiliation?, Of all the professions - doctors, engineers, CAs, why is that lawyers such a strong link with politicans?
There seems to be no real reason as to why there is such a link. Right from the days of freedom struggle, lawyers have been actively involved in the nation building process (Gandhiji, Nehru, Ambedkar, Rajaji and the like) I also do not think that the lawyers involving in politics is a phenomenon unique to India.
If you are talking of corrupt politicians, I feel they are corrupt because of being a politician not solely because they are lawyers.
How far is it ethically correct for a lawyer to defend someone when its clearly known that such a person has committed such an act?
There is something called the 'due process of law'. No one excepting the courts should judge a person of having committed an offence even if he voluntarily confesses . Law has sanctioned procedures for trial and it is the burden of the State to prove the offence and that too beyond resonable doubt. It becomes the duty of the lawyer to ensure that the procedures and rights gauranteed to his client are scruplously adhered. It is also the duty of the Court to ensure that an advocate is engaged to defend the accused unless he specifically gives up such a right and chooses to defend himself.
The bottomline: "to defend the client and ensure that he is given a fair trial is an advocate's reponsibility. "
The law provides that the discussion between the lawyer and a client is privy to them(is that the right word?). Leave aside the Law,is it ethically correct?
Advocates are prohibitted from disclosing without the client's consent, professional communications received as instructions in the course of employment. Now, there being a clear statutory prohibition on disclosure how are we to test the ethics. However, there are exceptions to the prohibition, such as communications made for criminal purposes and those comming to the knowledge of the advocate after commencement of the employmnt.
Please see the following 3 illustrations given in the Indian Evidence Act.
(a) When a client asks his attorney to defend in the case of forgery committed by him, the communication betweeen the client and attorney is protected from disclosure, since the defence of a man known to be guilty is not a criminal purpose.
(b) If a client asks his advocate to sue for possession of property by the use of the forged deed; this being in furtharance of a criminal purpose is NOT protected from disclosure.
(c) 'A' being charged with embezzelment, retains 'B' his lawyer to defend him. In the course of the proceedings, 'B' observes that an entry has been made in 'A's account books charging 'A' with the sum said to have been embezzeled, which entry was not in the book at the commencement of his employment. As this has been done after the commencement of the employment is NOT protected from disclosure.
I am only happy and thankful to you for giving me an opportunity to write what I have learnt. But I cannot be your legal representative.
Legal Representative is a phrase denoting the person who comes in the place of a deceased litigant. That is to say if a case is filed against 'A' and if 'A' dies when it is pending, it is the obligation of the person who had filed the case to bring on record 'A's legal representatives and continue the case against them. (ususally it is the successors to the estate who are legal representatives). No one can maintain a case against a dead person. Similairly a dead person also cannot maintain a suit and hence the case will have to be continued by his L.Rs. There have been cases which have been fought by generations on either side.
This is one thing which happens as a routine in civil cases. Earlier to the family courts being established, marital disputes were tried in civil courts. It was on one such occassions that a wife had filed an application against her husband for 'restitution of conjugal rights'. The husband died in the meantime and hence the wife's lawyer was representing to the court about the respondent's death, without any second thought the Hon'ble judge immediately adjourned the matter directing the petitioner to take steps to bring on record the L.Rs of the deceased respondent. :-))
Another one: What is the difference between BL and LLB?.
Both only mean Bachelor of Laws, though LLB is an acronym of Legum Legis Baccalaureus. Laws being a faculty which can neither be grouped under Science nor Arts, Undergrads in Laws are awarded LLB, LLM [Legum Legis Magister] to the PGs and LLD [Legum Legis Doctor] to the doctorates. But a few universities confer these degrees as B.L., M.L., and Ph.D. Even such of those who award LLB only call the candidate a Bachelor of Laws.